A question - when you're 90 day non o visa that was issued inside your home country ( UK for me ) is near to expire
And you are going to apply for 1 year extension
Do you require -
1 , 800000 baht in a Thai bank or
2 , proof that you have been in receipt of 65000 baht per month for the previous 3 months
Or
3 , or a combination
I have heard talk that a combination of options 1 and 2 are now available
Is this true or false. ??
If true can somebody explain exactly what this combination is
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TLDR : Answer Summary
To extend a 90-day Non-O visa in Thailand for a year, you typically need to meet specific financial requirements. There are three main options: 1) Maintain 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account for at least two months prior to your application, 2) Show proof of receiving 65,000 THB per month for the last three months, or 3) utilize a combination of both methods, which some immigration offices may accept. However, if you're applying under retirement rules and are a British citizen, you're required to use the deposit method, as the UK Embassy no longer issues income affidavits. It's crucial to check with your local immigration office to determine which methods they accept and their specific requirements.
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This combination has always been an alternative. As long as the combination of monthly transfers into a Thai bank account in your name, plus a sum of money in that bank account accrue to 800,000 a year, then it is acceptable. Example 400,000 in the bank account and monthly transfer that amount to 400,000 baht over twelve months.
It is not always an alternative as many Immigration Offices will not accept this method so you'd need to check beforehand to ensure your chosen method will be accepted before it's too late
Bit stupid embassies putting out that you can get the visa extension with the combination, then immigration saying whether they'll accept it or not. Makes you wonder whose in charge of the immigration legislation. đ¤
Embassies come under the Misistry of Foreign Affairs and Immigration are under the Ministry of the Interior, have different roles and often comment on each others responsibilities and get it wrong.
your example will not work. You wrote that 400.000 THB deposit and 400.000 THB income will be enough to run the combination method. However, if the exchange rate drops by only 0.05 Baht per US Dollar, you will fall below 800,000 THB. I have explained it further up in the thread, that you need a buffer amount of money. And you should be warned that not every Immigration will accept the combination method, some don't accept it in the first year, others need a minimum of 400.000 THB as the deposit part, and some others don't accept it at all. Legislative or not, this is Thailand for you, an Immigration is free to set their very own rules
Also you quote USD., well there's more currencies in the world than USD. Also, I and I presume others know how to do basic currency conversions and as I said 400,000 + 400,000 I only used that as an example. Only fools would tread a fine line on exchange rates. Also, hypothetically if someone did manage to get a visa extension based on them having 400k in their Thai account and proof of 400k per annum income, in their first year extension, depending on their lifestyle, they could build up a buffer to compensate for exchange rate fluctuations.
I was just reminding you to keep a "buffer" in case the exchange rate drops. That goes for ALL currencies. And it is "minimum of 800.000.- THB", or "a minimum of 65.000 THB income" . . . . it never is exactly this figure when you apply for the Extension of Stay on Immigration. . There definitely needs to be a buffer
Some basic knowledge about the "combination method"
You can provide proof of finances using the income method, the deposit method, and a third method: the combination method
A mixture of income and deposit.
For this, many immigration offices require a minimum deposit of 400,000.- THB.
Added to the proof of a monthly income, the yearly total must be ABOVE the required 800,000.- THB.
You have to be careful using a proof of income, because a change in the exchange rate can ruin the calculation - if you fall below a certain level, you would immediately be in "overstay". So you need a "buffer" in order to survive a drop of the exchange rate
An example:
You got a deposit of 420,000 THB. This would require another 420.000.- THB in yearly income, with the extra 20,000.- THB being the âbufferâ in case of an exchange rate drop.
Thus, the monthly income must be at least 35,000.- THB
The combination method isnât accepted by some Immigration offices since the rules for maintaining the deposit changed in 2018.
For the deposit method the change meant, on the date of application, the 800,000.- THB must have seasoned in the account for 2 months, then after the â1-year extensionâ has been issued, remain in the account for a further 3 months, and must never fall below 400,000 THB during the rest of the year.
Some Immigrations just havenât made up their mind on how to calculate this in case of a combination method.
By the way: The combination method is not accepted for the application to the "1-year extension of stay based on marriage with a Thai wife". Here it only is either deposit or income.
The U.K. Embassy in Bangkok since many years, does not issue an income affidavit any more.
Since you are a British citizen, your only option for the first year of an â1-year Extension of Stay Permit based on being over 50/retirementâ, is the deposit proof of a minimum of 800.000.- THB in a Thai bank account in your sole name. On the date of your application to the "extension", the money needs to have seasoned for 2 months, and you need the bank letter that proves it
If your income is over a monthly 65.000.- THB, you can use the âincome methodâ in the second or in the third year.
You can start to transfer from abroad a minimum of this amount, month for month, into your Thai bank account. The transfer MUST be âFETâ coded as having come from abroad, this is a requirement from Immigration.
After you have collected 12 months of transfers, and the bank has issued a 12-months statement of having received the transfers from abroad, you can theoretically use this 12-month statement as the financial proof required for the application to the next â1-year Extension of Stay Permit based on Retirementâ and free your 800.000.- THB deposit
*** The Combination Method:
Since you cannot produce an income affidavit from your embassy, the combination method is no option for the first year
It MIGHT become an option in the second year, if you have collected said 12 months of transfers, month for month, and the bank statement.
However, not every Immigration allows the combination method. Some donât allow it in the first year (which actually is not an option for you)
Some Immigrations might even require the deposit part to be a minimum of 400.000.- THB
You need to visit âyourâ Immigration and ask them if they allow the combination method, and what the requirements are like
No they donât. They do if you are applying for a in country Non O. 21 days for some offices.
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The UK Embassy doesnât provide income affidavits so for the first year extension off of a 90 day non O based on being over 50 you cannot use the income method or a combination. It has to be 800k seasoned for two months prior. You need to keep it in the bank for three months after applying and the balance cannot go below 400k for the remainder of the year.
If these conditions are met then the following year you can switch to the income method of having 12x monthly international transfers of over 65k (or if your immigration office allows, a combination).
that is not accepted at all, and never has been. The only thing accepted for the first year for someone with a UK passport is by having bt800,000 in a Thai bank account in your name only. Nothing else is accepted.