@Jeroen ******

nja als je wat langer gaat moet je wel erg veel eurootjes meenemen. Afhankelijk van hoe lang je gaat is dat misschien niet het handigste.

Je kunt tegenwoordig ook op veel plekken met credit card betalen. Dan heb je nog wel een variabel wisseltarief, maar in ieder geval niet die vermaledijde 220 baht vaste kosten erbij. Als je gewoon vaak met cc betaalt kan je het op zich wel redelijk lang volhouden met een paar honderd euro.

Accommodatie kun je soms in euro's betalen via boekingswebsites zonder er überhaupt op te verliezen.

@Jeroen ******

achter de douane inderdaad.

Overmaken naar Thailand kan je het beste doen met Wise. Rechtstreeks is inderdaad erg duur.

Het is wel voordeliger, maar natuurlijk niet veiliger. Maar inderdaad, neem er wat mee en wissel die om bij Superrich. En dan pinnen als het op is.

@Rich ****

cannot .

@Willem ***

that's really unfortunate. I bet you would have wanted to pay tax in Thailand over that income.

@Paul **********

I think you lost it a little. You say several times that a DTA doesn't apply but in your reply you refer several times to clauses in one (even stating those as reasons that a DTA wouldn't be in effect).

Also your point is wrong; taxes are, in general, not topped up. Read the applicable DTA between your country and Thailand and you'll find out.

@Brandon ***********

wrong Brandon. Tax treaties do not (in general) cancel out tax against tax. They cancel out income against income. What the man said if right: if a DTA is in effect between country A and country B, and it determines that country A taxes your income, then country B cannot tax the same income. That's regardless of the tax tariff, and applies even if country A exempts you from tax. The income is then considered after-tax income, not taxable anymore by country B.

There could be income parts where other principles apply, and not all treaties are the same, but in general, that is how it works.

@John *********

the same principle is in effect today under the current Dutch-Thai DTA.

@John *********

you completely misunderstood. It's opposite: tax treaties, in general, exempt INCOME from double taxation. Not tax itself. If that were the case then your reasoning that you'd end up paying the higher of the two taxes is right. But your entire premise is wrong, it doesn't work with tax credit already paid; the avoidance of double taxation principle applies to the income that is taxed. You don't pay the higher of the two, you pay where the DTA determines that the income is taxable, and you pay nothing in the other country (for that part of your income).

Your principle may apply to some income components but certainly not the major ones such as income from labor or pension.

@Brandon ***********

although you're completely right, I think that even if you don't cut off one day yourself, sticking to 179 days, it even happens for you with the disadvantageous rounding of stay duration that immigrations applies. Because all calendar days count in full for that, also arrival and departure, you don't actually get to stay 90 full days, but you'll get stuck at 89. In this case that could be convenient.

Example. Arrive May 2nd. Your 90th day is then July 30th. But if you then take the passport and count where you were each of the days, you find a Malaysian stamp on July 30th, and you'd count that day as outside Thailand. On a duration basis, the period from May 2 until July 30 is 89 counts days.